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Christian Fiction Is NOT a Victimless Crime

Nick Harrison, Senior Editor at Harvest House Publishers, recently made mention on his Facebook page about a study which revealed that “60% of Christian fiction readers are over 45.” That the Christian fiction industry bertrand-2markets to an older demographic of readers is not news. Neither is the fact that the majority of that group, or the Christian market in general, is comprised of white females. Hence the proliferation of Amish, Historical, and Romance titles.

What we often miss is the readers, writers, and genres that get overlooked because of this demographic tilt.

Case in point: Earlier this week The Weekly Standard ran a piece entitled Divine Deduction, subtitled “Christian crime fiction comes of age.” Did you know there was such a thing as “Christian crime fiction”? Let me rephrase that: Did you know there was a Christian writer out there putting out some fantastic crime fiction?

Apparently, a lot of other readers didn’t either.

Jon Breen of The Weekly Standard describes J. Mark Bertrand as “a major crime-fiction talent,” admitting that he’s “one of the best police procedural writers I’ve come upon in years.” Breen proceeds to describe Bertrand’s three-book crime series (beginning with Back on Murder), published by Bethany House, in rather glowing terms:

The police procedure has a feel of authenticity, with extensive detail of weaponry and forensics, and the course of the investigation bears some of the messiness of real life. The narrative energy is relentless. The visual, cinematic style sticks to a single first-person viewpoint, a unity some contemporary thriller writers violate to their detriment. Present-tense narrative annoys some readers (including this one at times), but its sense of urgency and immediacy is effective in the [Roland] March novels.

There’s just one problem…

Bertrand is a major crime-fiction talent—one of the best police procedural writers I’ve come upon in years—but he has not reached nearly the wide audience he deserves for a simple reason: His novels come from a religious publisher. (bold mine)

One would think a religious publisher, just like any publisher, should be about cashing in on their clients’ talents. I mean, why hire Eddie Van Halen to stuff envelopes for your mail order company?

Give dude a stage.

So how does being a religious publisher (in this case Bethany House) limit the reach of an author’s audience? Well, it doesn’t… unless you write sci-fi, epic fantasy, ethnic fiction, espionage, horror, literary, or crime fiction.

Because Women’s / Historical fiction is the wheelhouse of the CBA (Christian Booksellers Association), publishing houses are now designed to crank out this product. A new title rolls in and the marketing department just rearranges all the typical pieces: bonnet, covered wagon, parasol, petticoat, doe-eyed lass. Check, check, check! It’s a quick cut-and-paste affair. The economy has forced Christian publishers into “safe mode.” Maybe they’ve always been in “safe mode.” So when a horror, crime, fantasy, literary, or sci-novel rolls in, it’s the equivalent of adding a fifth wheel to an assembly line of carriages.

In other words, Bertrand’s problem is not that he’s “a major crime-fiction talent,” but that “religious publishers” don’t know how in the hell to market “a major crime-fiction talent”!

Even sadder is that some Christian authors and readers simply shrug and mumble something like, “Well, that’s just the way it is. If you don’t like it, go elsewhere.”

Apparently, that’s just what Mr. Bertrand is doing.

J. Mark Bertrand deserves a wider readership than a religious publisher affords. Many writers are able to carry readers along by employing nice phrases and descriptive passages, bits of humor, character involvement, and curiosity about how it will all turn out. But few have Bertrand’s relentless narrative power. His website states he will write more March cases if he can find a new publisher, suggesting the three-book original contract was a commercial (surely not spiritual) failure for Bethany House. Perhaps the ideal new publisher would be a major mainstream house, one that won’t ask Bertrand to compromise his beliefs but can get behind this extraordinary writer and gain him the wide audience he deserves. (bold mine)

“J. Mark Bertrand deserves a wider readership than a religious publisher affords,” someone who “can get behind this extraordinary writer and gain him the wide audience he deserves.” So if you’re a Christian writer who writes really good stuff, that’s NOT clean Romance or Historical fiction, and you want a “wide audience,” look elsewhere.

I don’t want to portray Mr. Bertrand as a victim in this drama. No doubt, he’ll land on his feet elsewhere. The real victim in this tale of intrigue is not J. Mark Bertrand.

It’s the industry that forces him to look elsewhere.

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  • Katherine Coble July 31, 2013, 7:36 AM

    Thoughts on the rest of the article in a bit. But I’d be really interested in seeing an article–maybe I should write it myself–on how the “bonnet fiction” is actually pretty close to racism. Or…not racism. Classism? Factionalism?

    As a Mennonite I am increasingly aggravated by the way we are misportrayed as some quaint elves or fairies.

    • Jill July 31, 2013, 8:49 AM

      Way to burst my bubble, Katherine! I literally believed you were a quaint elf. Now I’m not sure if we can be friends. 😉

    • Erica July 31, 2013, 9:09 AM

      I personally enjoy Amish Fiction as a diversion from my other favorite genres, but I agree with you that Amish Fiction is portrayed in one light instead of multidimensional.

      • Hoomi September 7, 2013, 10:55 PM

        Releasing in less than a month, I believe, will be the new novel, “Amish Vampires in Space.” Get your sci-fi, your paranormal thriller, and your Amish fiction, all rolled into one!

        Anyway, it’s very much a given that Christian writers that craft stories in something other than the Historical Romance genre face a daunting uphill battle to win any attention from Christian publishers. We don’t face a much better chance with secular publishers, since they view the “religious content” as something better suited to the Christian publishers.

        Not to mention, how many Christian publishers have such strict content guidelines, that they would reject the Bible for “inappropriate content.”

      • NikeChillemi September 8, 2013, 6:03 PM

        Katherine, Jill, Erica,

        Except for Nancy Mehl. She write wonderful, complex contemporary Mennonite murder mysteries.

  • Cherry Odelberg July 31, 2013, 7:43 AM

    “Give Dude a Stage!” stomp, stomp, stomp. Beat cane on floor. Well said.

  • Lynette Sowell July 31, 2013, 7:46 AM

    Good for him! I’m glad he’s going mainstream if indeed his writing is that good and his work deserves better notice than it’s received. We CBA authors often forget that it’s a wide, wide world of readers out there, and we forget how small the CBA world really is. i am making small nudges with my book away from that narrow corner that Katherine refers to. I’m waiting to see if CBA readers will think it’s too far away from what they’re used to, and if a wider audience will embrace the book. I too get tired of what feels like same-old, same-old.

    I’ve found my author friend’s cookbook (carried by a CBA publisher) not in the cookbook section, but in the Christian book section — all because it’s from a Christian publishing house. A shame. I don’t think her recipes are “Christian.”

    • Sharon July 31, 2013, 9:08 AM

      How quickly they forget: http://www.amazon.com/Peace-Like-River-Leif-Enger/dp/0802139256

      But, since then, we’re free to write with the “Christian word” filter set to OFF. And our self-publishing house switch set to ON. In these days of Amazon.com and e-book buying access, who needs a publisher? (And who knows which readers will stumble across it, there?)

      Yay for God! He opened the “All Words for All People” market.

    • Erica July 31, 2013, 9:13 AM

      Lol at the “Christian recipes”. I didn’t think recipes could be Christian. Me personally, I enjoy writing supernatural fiction but I would like Christians and other nonreligious people to read them. I write stories with messages, therefore it could reach a broad audience.

      Of course the matter of hope, redemption, and love is always good to include.

  • Heidi Glick July 31, 2013, 7:50 AM

    Uh oh. I write suspense and not bonnet fiction. 🙂

    The main problem I face is trying to market via social media when the majority of the people that Christian books are marketed to (60% over age 45) seem to be less inclined to use social media. I’m trying to overcome this by offering readers an email newsletter via Yahoo.

  • Winter Peck July 31, 2013, 7:55 AM

    There are so many things I want to say, but I’ll keep it simple. Mark, welcome to the other side. I left the CBA because my police procedural/suspense/thriller/mystery/romance books didn’t fit the criteria. Got picked up by a publishing house quickly and 3 books later–working on 4th–here I am. And I’m not looking back.

    • Natisha Parsons October 14, 2015, 12:44 AM

      Who is publishing your work? Hard for an unknown name to get attention.

  • Heather Day Gilbert July 31, 2013, 8:01 AM

    *cheering quietly from the sidelines while book is out on submission*

  • Rick Barry July 31, 2013, 8:28 AM

    Can the tide of bonnet fiction continue forever? If someday the fans get tired of this genre (and the market seems saturated already), where will CBA publishers turn?

    I dislike the cliche “vicious cycle,” but it seems that CBA houses don’t publish a number of genres because they can’t sell them well, and readers of those genres don’t go to CBA publishers for their books because they already know the CBA isn’t producing them. Male readers (including Christian ones) often bypass CBA catalogs and websites simply because they know from experience they won’t find stories geared for the male mind.

    I don’t know where the answer lies, but I hope Christian fiction someday expands beyond its present boundaries.

  • Cindy McCord July 31, 2013, 8:32 AM

    I will admit to being over the age of 45 and a reader of Christian fiction. I don’t however read Amish, Historical, and Romance titles. My favorite to read is Christian Crime Fiction and I agree that it is hard to find. Would love to find some new authors to try. I would say that my favorite author is Steven James who does a great job of it with the Patrick Bowers series. I have read one of J. Mark Bertrand’s books, Back to Murder, but not any others in the series.

    • Heather Day Gilbert July 31, 2013, 8:56 AM

      Cindy–I’d highly recommend Sibella Giorello books. Very well-written and gripping plotlines. Love the MC, Raleigh Harmon.

      • Cindy McCord July 31, 2013, 11:20 AM

        Thanks Heather! I have placed all of her Raleigh Harmon series in our church library. So far I have read the first one so have a ways to go on it but I did like her writing.

      • Bina July 31, 2013, 5:28 PM

        Was gonna say the same thing…love Sibella’s books!

    • Carrie Padgett July 31, 2013, 10:18 PM

      Earlene Fowler is an ABA author but her mystery novels are “clean,” and very good. A bit cozy, if that works for you. Earlene and her characters are believers.

    • Charlotte Strauwald July 30, 2014, 8:19 PM

      Hi Folks, I am one of those Christian Crime Fiction writers, and I just finished my novel, SUFFER THE CHILDREN, ELEANOR’S STORY. It is about the hunt for the leader of a child sex slave ring. The heroine was a hit in her role as a secondary character in my novel REGIONS BEYOND (this is not Crime Fiction) which was published by PublishAmerica (yes, I know) in 2008. My reader’s asked me to write Eleanor’s story, so this is it. I volunteer in my church library, and our Christian Crime Fiction does pretty well; Dee Henderson’s work is very popular, and there are a couple of fairly new titles, The Sacred Cipher and its sequel, that are seeing a lot of action. I think this new genre is catching on.

  • Nicole July 31, 2013, 8:47 AM

    Amen and Bravo! J. Mark Bertrand is one of the finest crime writers in contemporary fiction. Period. No qualifiers such as “Christian fiction” for this man. He’s an absolutely accomplished author. Having read a lot of thrillers, mysteries, suspense, etc., in the CBA publishing realm and some outside of it, Mark is sterling. And it’s just flat incredible that Christian publishers haven’t snapped him up and given him an unending contract for whatever he chooses to write – he’s that good.

    The amazing part of this ridiculous situation is that his stories are pure crime fiction with Christianity making small but solid interruptions into the tales. They’re “clean” as far as not containing superfluous smut. They’re just perfect for what they are. Granted, Bethany House (Bonnet Books, Inc.) might not have had success with these three novels, but, you’re right, Mike, it’s because they don’t have a clue how to market anything besides their sweet little romances and Amish ad nauseum selections.

    This is just another example of truly terrific authors being laid waste because they don’t cater to the over-sated demographic. It’s shameful really. You can’t find better quality in any fiction.

    • Nancy Kimball July 31, 2013, 6:37 PM

      Nicole,
      I have to agree with you. When I came across this great book, Blood and Bone, in NetGalley I was SHOCKED to see it was a Bethany House title. I read it and it was great (think National Treasure/Indiana Jones meets The Robe) and I was a little furious to find out at the end it was not the first of the series. Again that I’d NEVER heard of until coming across it on NetGalley. As an aspiring author who is as well connected as I am on social media with like minded individuals, it was disappointing to have “stumbled upon” such a great book by accident.

  • Heidi Glick July 31, 2013, 8:51 AM

    If you like to read Christian suspense, thrillers, etc., or learn more about authors that write these genres, I feature them on a blog that I coauthor.

    http://www.sleuthsandsuspects.blogspot.com/

    • Susanne Lakin July 31, 2013, 12:50 PM

      I’d love to be featured on your blog. My crime novel, A Thin Film of Lies, is very real and intense, but features a female Christian homicide detective who lets God lead her. But it’s got some grit.

      • Heidi Glick July 31, 2013, 1:07 PM

        Susanne,

        I messaged you on Facebook and send you a proposed blog date. If that doesn’t work, just let me know.

        Heidi

    • John Robinson July 31, 2013, 1:25 PM

      Heidi, I just wanted to say I really love your blog. Keep up the GREAT work you and Jeff do!

      • Heidi Glick July 31, 2013, 4:34 PM

        Thanks, John. I thought of you after reading this article and remember you speaking about writing Joe Box for men to have something to read (Although, let’s face it, women like Joe Box, too!) and all you went through to try and get the series published.

        And I want to clarify. I don’t hate bonnet fiction. I’m just not into it. Probably because I grew up in Lancaster County, PA, and I’m not fascinated by Amish. That said, my blog has featured an Amish writer who writes Amish mysteries because some readers like that. I’m just not one of those people.

        I think a lot of Christian men I know don’t read Christian books because they don’t think that there are any written to them. I don’t think that’s true, but I think they aren’t aware of what is out there. I hope to change that by blogging! 🙂

    • Tracy Lesch July 31, 2013, 3:00 PM

      Hi Heidi. I’d love a chance to be featured on your blog as well. I have an epic fantasy that was a finalist in the 2012 Global eBook Awards, and excerpts from its humble beginnings won me Writer of the Year at the 2006 Florida Christian Writer’s Conference. And yes, when I showed it to various editors, they looked at me like I had three heads. Guess there weren’t enough Amish knights in it… Also, here’s a short rant: the folks with the “accepted” genres and books constantly SPAM on FB, on multiple book pages, EVERY DAY. Has anyone else encountered this?

  • Brenda Anderson July 31, 2013, 9:01 AM

    Where does the blame fall for this *crime*? The publisher for narrowing their scope to bonnet & historical romance? The 45+ (of which I’m part) who ignore quality writers such as Bertrand (Loved his Roland March books! Comparable to Connelly’s Harry Bosch) and Athol Dickson? And, unless the author is Karen Kingsbury, contemporary women’s fiction doesn’t sell well either.

    I want to support Christian Fiction. I write CF; my friends write CF. Yet, when I leave my local Christian bookseller, due to the lack of choice I’m usually leaving without making a purchase.

    I wonder what will happen to CF when bonnet & historicals go out of style.

  • Sharon July 31, 2013, 9:09 AM

    How quickly they forget: http://www.amazon.com/Peace-Like-River-Leif-Enger/dp/0802139256

    But, since then, we’re free to write with the “Christian word” filter set to OFF. And our self-publishing house switch set to ON. In these days of Amazon.com and e-book buying access, who needs a publisher? (And who knows which readers will stumble across it, there?)

    Yay for God! He opened the “All Words for All People” market.

  • Ramona July 31, 2013, 9:41 AM

    Word! There was a time when the flier from CBD or the local Christian bookstore had the latest Frank Peretti novel on the cover, along with a variety of other titles and the latest CD’s…. Now, I just chunk them without opening. Bleah! They’re marginalizing themselves, imo.

  • Teddi Deppner July 31, 2013, 10:52 AM

    Hmmm…. I guess it depends on what you’re looking to happen here, folks.

    I was pretty much on board with all the comments and the thrust of the article, and then I had a sudden mental shift.

    Why do we assume that Christian publishers should publish every genre under the sun?

    Why not let them do what they do best? Everywhere I turn, I hear that the new publishing trends indicate we should “find our niche” and stay focused on it.

    The CBA has found its niche. And as long as the readers in that niche exist, perhaps the CBA should keep up the good work, cranking out what their group enjoys writing and reading.

    Meanwhile, there are a lot of Christians (and Jews and Muslims and Mormons and nice, moral people) would would prefer “clean” fiction written from a basically moral worldview. In MANY genres.

    I don’t know that we need the CBA to do anything differently. Maybe we just need to see them differently. Instead of seeing them as the place for Christians to publish their work, see them as the place for certain overtly Christian genres to be published. If you don’t write those genres, go where your genre is being published.

    Meanwhile, as a reader (for myself and on behalf of my children), I’d keenly appreciate some sort of rating system for books like we have for movies. Something that categorizes and labels things according to the content so I can narrow my list while looking for something that matches my conscience and preferences.

    I’m not looking for (or writing) Christian content so much as excellent (entertaining, enriching) content that doesn’t actively undermine my convictions.

    • rachel July 31, 2013, 11:15 AM

      i really appreciated your comment, Teddi!

    • Heidi Glick July 31, 2013, 12:20 PM

      As for a rating system for Christian fiction, try http://www.fictionfinder.com

      I think you may be required to create a login, but it’s a a free service.

      On there, authors can rate their books according to categories like violence, language, etc. Not all the books have ratings, but some do.

      You can also search for Christian books by keyword and/or genre.

      As for a site where you can view ratings for secular books, try http://www.commonsensemedia.org/

    • D.M. Dutcher July 31, 2013, 2:25 PM

      But what isn’t published is so huge it runs the risk of setting perceptions about Christians that are wrong. It’s not like “well, we don’t publish avant-garde stuff, but we have a healthy mix of fiction from all genres.” They ignore genders and one could argue an entire gender.

    • Carrie Padgett July 31, 2013, 10:15 PM

      You make some good points, Teddi. Christian publishers are in *business* and we do well to remember that. They’re going to publish what makes money.

  • J. S. Bailey July 31, 2013, 11:12 AM

    Hmm. I write what might be considered Christian speculative fiction. If anyone figures out a decent way to market that genre to the masses, be sure to let me know! 😀

    • Jon Mast July 31, 2013, 11:53 AM

      I don’t know their numbers, but Marcher Lord Press seems to get at least some press and their books are fantastic. http://www.marcherlordpress.com — they focus on Christian Speculative fiction.

      • J. S. Bailey July 31, 2013, 7:34 PM

        I’ve actually considered submitting my future work to them. I haven’t read any of their novels yet but I’ve heard great things!

  • Rebeca Seitz July 31, 2013, 12:14 PM

    As someone who served as the first dedicated fiction publicist at Thomas Nelson years ago and who has worked with CBA and ABA storytellers ever since, THANK YOU for this article. For all you Christian writers creating product that belongs in the mainstream (e.g. not Amish or historical fiction), I would love to invite you to the sandbox we created over at Spirit of Naples (SON). It was created specifically for you, the Christian creator of mainstream stories in film/TV/book form. At our conference this October, we have SHARK TANK, where writers can pitch their products live, in front of the conference audience, to a very accomplished panel of sharks (Penguin, Sony, etc.). I do apologize for the shameless plug, but I’m working hard to let folks know that there IS a group of us trying to do something about this – and we’d love to keep the crowd growing! We’re at http://spiritofnaples.com.

    • Kathleen L. Maher September 7, 2013, 10:11 PM

      Rebeca, I just signed up for the newsletter for SON. Thank you for doing what you are doing.

  • Susanne Lakin July 31, 2013, 12:29 PM

    Yes, I tried to sell my edgy very Christian crime novel, A Thin Film of Lies, to CBA. Even with having been published by Zondervan and written thirteen novels, my agent couldn’t get one publisher to read a chapter. I went on to self-publish it and enjoy great reviews. I pretty much have given up trying to write anything for CBA because the scope is too narrow and restrictive. The point being, too, that CBA books are written for Christians, and I write to reach the lost primarily, by trying to subtly bring in issues of faith. So, along with many former CBA authors, I’m now writing for the general market, and I’m thrilled.

  • Kathleen Y'Barbo-Turner July 31, 2013, 12:32 PM

    Interesting that historical would be included in this discussion. Historical romance, yes, okay. But historical suspense? Or, for that matter, any other type of historical? Not seeing it.

    • Kathleen L. Maher September 7, 2013, 10:22 PM

      yes, well said Kathleen. Plain old historical without romance is a difficult sell, and forget it if your romance has the wrong aged hero and heroine or emphasizes the hero more than the heroine, or if you have a great New Adult idea that happens to be historical . . . basically, it has to fit a very tight parameter. *sigh*

  • janet July 31, 2013, 12:37 PM

    My husband sent me a link to this post, knowing both my bibliophile and mystery/thriller tendencies and my dislike of most “Christian” fiction. The latter seems to me to be almost all romance of a particular sameness and although there might be some good stories there, I don’t ever look at them. I got Bertrand’s three books from the library today and they’ll be part of my traveling vacation library. Loved the post and the resulting conversation and have subscribed, so I look forward to more of the same.

    Cheers,

    janet

    • Heidi Glick July 31, 2013, 12:48 PM

      Up until a few years ago, I was only aware of a handful of Christian authors (Kingsbury, Peretti, Jenkins). I began blogging, and I found there are many good Christian fiction writers who I did not know about. I think the problem is that like, Betrand, these other authors, are not as well known.

      By blogging, I hope to call attention to such writers, because I feel bad that so many readers are missing out on some good books!

      Up until a few years ago, I wouldn’t even dare read a Christian fiction novel written by a woman because I thought it would be some flowery romance. And then I found authors like Ronie Kendig and Jordyn Redwood, etc., and now, I read Christian fiction written by females.

  • Nick Harrison July 31, 2013, 12:48 PM

    Hi all. I want to weigh in on this topic too. Please know that publishers DO try and publish creative out-of-the-box fiction, but what are we to do when the market we reach doesn’t respond? How are we to blame for that? Regarding crime fiction, I acquired and edited Brandt Dodson’s excellent Colton Parker, PI series (book one was “Original Sin”). Brandt is a great writer in this genre. We did at least SIX books with him and yet we didn’t find the readers of that genre. We tried four EXCELLENT speculative fiction books by George Bryan Polivka (start with “The Legend of the Firefish”) and although Bryan is one of the top three authors I’ve had the privilege to edit, his books also did not find an audience in our market. I, along with other CBA editors, rack my brains trying to figure out how to get our market to respond to these and other genres that are popular in the general trade market. If anyone has any theories on how to do it better, I’m all ears! What we’ve found is that Christians who like genre fiction don’t even think of looking for books from Christian publishers. Add to that the fact that large chain stores will shelve our fiction ONLY in the religious fiction category, no matter the genre. I would LOVE to see some authors like Mark Bertrand break though in our market. But to be honest, something will have to happen FIRST to the readership of fiction by Christian authors before publishers can expand in that area. One final story: I acquired and edited a very talented writer that writes what might be close to “literary fiction.” We pubished NINE books trying to find her market. NINE! She has since moved to another CBA publisher for a few more books and has still had limited success–though marvelous reviews. Now, praise God, she has a contract with Penguin. I hope she finds a broader readership there. I do wish folks would stop blaming publishers for the reading tastes of the Christian book-buying public.

    • Heidi Glick July 31, 2013, 12:59 PM

      Thank you for commenting. I appreciate hearing your side as well. As a 30-something, I will say that I don’t buy books at Christian book stores. I buy books on Amazon, almost exclusively. I write Christian fiction and read Christian fiction, but up until a few years ago, I didn’t read as much Christian fiction because I was only aware of a handful of writers. I think social media is where it’s at for the younger generation and for those who will be interested in other genres. Where are these readers lurking–on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and blogs. I don’t think you can market crime the same way as you do bonnet fiction because you have two different sets of readers. I write suspense, and I’m working on a crime novel. Where do I lurk–on crime forums (for help from law enforcement), on Facebook (in suspense groups and writers and book club groups), Twitter, Pinterest, Goodreads, blogs, etc. When I worked as a technical editor, I was taught to conduct usability studies with a minimum of five participants. I’d suggest reaching out to readers of other genres to find out more about how to market to them.

    • Heather Day Gilbert July 31, 2013, 1:01 PM

      Nick, I am thrilled to hear there are acq. editors thinking like this out there. One brilliant development I’ve noticed is Cook’s direct-to-epub format…then they do hard copies if it sells well, I believe. This seems a great way to take a “chance” on debut authors and out-of-the-box genres without investing huge amounts in it. I think the best we can all do is to give props to great writers like the ones you mentioned you have taken on in the past. I’ve found some true gems in the CBA, and I make sure I give lots of props in social media forums & w/reader friends to said authors.

      • Sharon July 31, 2013, 3:07 PM

        Agreed, Heather. Is there even a “risk” to a Christian e-book?

        Last year, the Minnesota Christian Writers Guild http://mnchristianwriters.org/ toured Bethany Press http://www.bethanypress.com/ , whose president is admittedly nervous about all the paper he has stacked to the ceiling. They print nearly every hard copy book issued by every Christian book publisher in the USA, but doubts he will ever use the paper. “Christians are the number one buyers of e-version books,” he stated. He’s the one “at risk,” if you ask me.

        Rather than fight the times (which are a changin’) and in keeping with the Great Commission, they rolled out a tool giving Christians in remote mission fields access to books they could not import (without going to jail). For $10k, they are downloaded electronically, and printed to hard copy, only if need be. http://www.publish4all.com/ No stockpiles laying around!

    • Rebeca Seitz July 31, 2013, 1:12 PM

      As painful as it was to come to the realization, Nick, I think the answer is: let it go. Booksellers just aren’t going to shelves CBA fiction anywhere but the Christian section. Someone else has said this as well here: CBA knows what it can sell. Amish. Historical romance. This is frustrating because new Christians who venture into the Christian fiction ghetto at their local ABA bookstore are going to think they’ve just signed up to follow a God who requires them to be entertained by nothing in the present or future. But so long as CBA publishers need to make money (a principal that is NOT evil!), it is what it is.
      The market that purchases the other genres knows to look elsewhere because it always has. Christians have been publishing in the mainstream in adult, YA, and children’s for the history of publishing and they continue to do so (Koontz, Grisham, King – Christians. Writers of Beauty and the Beast, Wizard of Oz, Peter Pan – Christians). Segregating ourselves and our stories is an idea that has revealed its own flaws. It shines a harsh light on the wisdom of the directive to be IN the world, while mastering the art of not letting our identity be based in it.
      We know the phrase well, “Go where the desired audience is already”…and that’s not the shadowy corner in the back of the store where the shelves are covered in buggies and bonnets. (Unless the audience the Lord has called you to minister to with story is the audience that LIKES buggies and bonnets. Then you better get yourself there!)
      I greatly applaud CBA publishers for trying…just as I now think the best thing that can be done for novelists – for readers – is to get stories written by Christians onto bookshelves beside their non-Christian counterparts.

      • Rebecca LuElla Miller July 31, 2013, 6:21 PM

        I’m having a little bit of a disconnect here. So we’re saying Ted Dekker doesn’t sell well?

        Becky

        • J.L. Lyon July 31, 2013, 7:20 PM

          I was wondering that too, Becky. There are definitely outliers in this equation, and it would be interesting if we could know why certain speculative/crime fiction authors have been successful in the CBA and others haven’t. So far in this thread I’ve seen fingers pointed at bookstores, publishers, and readers…but what about the authors themselves? Doesn’t some of the burden of responsibility for connecting to readers fall on them?

          I look at Ted Dekker and I see that he has built himself into a brand, not just with great books but with great marketing. He engaged actively with his fans back in those early days (and still does, to an extent) and built a solid following (“Dekkies,” I think they call themselves). There is something to be said for that. The author’s work doesn’t end at the contract, and most can’t depend on a single awesome book to skyrocket them to success. It takes time and effort, nose to the ground, to build your name into a brand. I’m sure he didn’t do all of it alone, but in the end no publisher or agent owns the Dekker brand. He does.

          Not to knock Bertrand, but I was just curious what his site looked like so I Googled him. Aside from a post today about the Weekly Standard review, the last post was in February. The one before that was in September 2012. Also, low social engagement on those blogs. While “fiction writers should blog to build a platform and get published” has been debunked, the basic fact remains that continued online exposure requires fresh content that is of value to users. Perhaps Bertrand used to blog but no longer feels he needs to. That’s fine as well, but then why does his site still prominently feature his blog (which is largely outdated)? Why aren’t his books, and his identity as a novelist, front and center? See Ted Dekker’s site, by contrast.

          Admittedly, his publisher and agent should be advising him on this, but again they don’t own the Bertrand brand. He does.

          • Rebecca LuElla Miller August 1, 2013, 10:49 AM

            J. L. I’m glad someone else is thinking along these lines. I think the issue is too complex to throw a blanket statement at Christian readers like, They only buy romance or historical. That theory does not explain the anomalies like Ted Dekker or even Jerry Jenkins.

            From my perspective as a fantasy writer who has worked to alert readers to the existence of a growing number of quality authors and books, I remain unconvinced that Christians don’t want other genres. Rather, readers remain uninformed.

            Most of my efforts have put me in touch with other speculative writers, but slowly we’re finding readers, too. One of my happiest recent connections is a librarian who loves Christian speculative stories and who writes reviews.

            The thing is, like everything else in the book business, waking up readers to a wider array of books is a slow process. I get frustrated when I hear four books being cited as an example of trying to expand readership. That’s like an author sending out four queries and deciding there’s no hope for his manuscript.

            As I see it, publishers might not meet their expectations in the short term, but the investment to bring in the younger readers or those with broader interests is worth it.

            Oddly enough, while there’s so much emphasis put on romance and historicals by some publishers, AMG almost exclusively publishes YA fantasy in their fiction line. Another anomaly?

            Becky

        • D.M. Dutcher July 31, 2013, 9:24 PM

          Stephen King effect? People who aren’t crazy about horror as a genre read him? I always though Dekker seemed to fill A King/Koontz role in Christian fiction, and for some odd reason that weird supernatural/sf/fantasy hybrid doesn’t offend believers when a straight genre novel does.

    • Teddi Deppner July 31, 2013, 1:22 PM

      Great hearing the publisher’s side of this story, Nick.

    • Jacob August 1, 2013, 6:02 AM

      As a reader of all sorts of fiction, let me give you a glimpse at why I will probably never buy another book from a Christian publisher. (And these are all broad assumptions; I’d never want to presume an individual’s authorial intent. And I know there are books which aren’t like the following issues–I’m deliberately painting with a broad stroke.)

      1. As a reader, I hate agenda.
      A lot of Christian fiction feels like thinly-veiled advertisements for Evangelical Christianity. Or, at least, serving as an “example” of how following a specific Christian lifestyle formula would bring about a happy result.

      I’m not thinking of a specific book here, but it wouldn’t surprise me if this has been done:
      Protagonist was promiscuous as a non-Christian. Finds God, vows to wait for man God provides. Struggles. Struggles. God brings The One into life. Suffers some temptation–maybe gives in (but just a little bit!), feels “appropriately” guilty. Gets married, lives happily ever after, all because Protagonist followed God’s path.

      2. Theology
      There are many different branches of Biblical interpretation and analysis. I’ve got my own beliefs, and I’m comfortable with the fact that other people have different beliefs. But that doesn’t mean that I can read a Christian novel and forget that the theological perspective being extolled runs contrary to my own.

      Yet if I read a book from a non-Christian which presents Christians with a different theological angle, I don’t care. Why? Because in a weird way, a Christian product represents Christianity, whereas a regular book is just a story with characters. (Which, incidentally, doesn’t excuse non-Christian books from the Agenda point; if I feel like the author is writing to prove a point rather than share a story, I’m tuning out–regardless of the agenda.)

      3. Sanitization
      Maybe things have changed in the ten-odd years since I’ve really paid any attention to the CBA-market, but considering Christian fiction is even more Amish/romance/historical skewed than it was back then, I kind of doubt it.

      I forget if I was watching a Christian movie or reading a Christian book, but there was a scene with an antagonist that was played totally seriously. They were trying to portray this guy as A Big Bad. Yet, this supposed Big Bad guy didn’t DO anything–maybe some violence, that seems to be pretty well accepted in certain CBA circles–but he was talking, and talking, and NOT swearing (but using awkward little substitutes that no actual Big Bad would ever consider saying).

      The only thing that separated him from the “good guys” was some sort of “I hate church!” sort of spiel. (Hopefully more subtle than my brief pseudo-quote made it seem.) It’s not like I think authors should be trying to fit in as much “bad” things as possible, but the sanitization of language, sex, drug culture, etc from the story means that the characters are sanitized from these elements as well. And sanitized characters won’t ring true with me as a reader.

      4. A lack of respect for the Christian book readership.
      There was a point, even when I was drifting away from Christian industry fiction that I’d express some of these reasons I wasn’t interested in reading Christian fiction. So the person would stare at me with some sense of shock, gather themselves, and then exclaim, “Well, have you read Frank Peretti? I think you’d like him.”

      Yes, I have read Frank Peretti.

      Or the time I told a co-worker that I didn’t believe the theology presented in the Left Behind books was accurate and he legitimately called me a heathen.

      Just so many examples of me presenting issues to the readership and them suggesting an author that absolutely embodied everything I can’t stand. So at this point the only thing that would get me to read a Christian book would be the recommendation from someone whose literary tastes I already highly respect. And even then there is so much Faulkner, Bradbury, and John Green to read.

      • Susanne Lakin August 1, 2013, 6:38 AM

        Well said, Jacob.

      • Rebecca LuElla Miller August 1, 2013, 11:09 AM

        Jacob, with all due respect, if you haven’t read a book that falls in the Christian fiction purview within the last ten years, I think your ideas are outmoded. Read Merlin’s Blade by Robert Treskillard, then comment. Or try A Cast of Stones by Patrick Carr.

        And the issue of “theology” is a little strange. I assume you’re fine with reading about false worldviews which litter the landscape of general market fiction. Are you saying we Christians should stuff our differences and write some kind of whitewashed fiction that represents nothing but the bare bones of our faith? Actually, I think that’s what the fiction some ten years ago did. And that’s the very attitude which I believe brings Christian fiction down–if it isn’t what I believe, then it’s no good. Why do we treat Christian fiction differently from general market fiction?

        I don’t recognize most of the strictures many people ascribe to Christian fiction. Just this week I had someone say (yet again) that CBA books don’t allow drinking. I had to laugh because the book I was reading has the town drunk for the protagonist (A Cast of Stones).

        My advice to those complaining–start reading some contemporary Christian fiction.

        Becky

      • Rachel Smith August 1, 2013, 3:08 PM

        Well said, Jacob! I heartily agree. As a 30-something who’s devoured mountains of Christian fiction in the last 10 years, I’ve totally stopped reading it in the last six months. There for awhile things were trying to change, but then it all went back to the way it used to be. I have zero interest in picking one up, and I love historical romance.

        I’m happily discovering and devouring general market authors, and I’ve found out I adore paranormal romance. Talk about something that’s taboo in the CBA!

    • Anne Rogers August 5, 2013, 2:11 AM

      “I do wish folks would stop blaming publishers for the reading tastes of the Christian book-buying public.”

      YES! I completely agree. I am astonished to read so many people saying there are only flowery romances published in Christian fiction. The comment/s made that Bethany is publishing merely bonnet fiction is also quite frankly ludicrous. Looking at the recent releases from Bethany House & sister imprint Revell I see historical fiction (set in Regency England and all sorts of time periods in the USA), fantasy (from more than one author!), Amish (yes, and yes, ‘bonnet fiction’ keeps on selling….), mystery, suspense, and yes of course – romance. To say publishing houses are not concentrating on multiple genres is simply not the case.

      Lion Hudson (Oxford, England) represents the Baker Publishing Group in the UK, where there is considerable resistance to ANY religious element in a novel in the ABA (general) sector, and where it is a challenge in the CBA sector to encourage Christian readers to try reading Christian fiction of any genre! I admit that I was one of those people who, despite having a faith, avoided Christian fiction for years until discovering that actually there is some fantastic Christian fiction being published.

      It is a huge challenge trying to get many excellent authors’ books read. (From either US OR UK authors/publishers – including ourselves on our Lion Fiction imprint.) Sadly, people have long memories, and Christian fiction has had a reputation for being weak and poorly written, with awkward and clumsy ‘God spots’. One of our major tasks has been to convince readers that this is not the case any more and that Christian fiction has evolved. Over here we have fewer bloggers with large followings, and fewer outlets through which to talk about great new books. Social media is helpful in this, but has its limitations. It is a fact of life also, that we have tight budgets, and running big campaigns is extremely expensive. So we are always looking for every good opportunity. This includes aiming towards niche areas such as fantasy readers. I never thought I would say that I would be a champion of Christian fiction, but I am. I read a lot of it now, and have found some good new authors as a result. As Nick Harrison says, if anyone has any ideas on helping Christian readers to engage with Christian fiction (in the UK in my case!), then I am also ‘all ears’!

      • R.J. Anderson August 5, 2013, 7:49 AM

        in the UK, where there is considerable resistance to ANY religious element in a novel in the ABA (general) sector

        And yet I got clean away with it in REBEL (Orchard Books / Hachette UK, 2010). Maybe fantasy, especially children’s fantasy, slides under the radar there?

        • Anne Rogers August 5, 2013, 8:14 AM

          I think you’re right, R J Anderson, in that fantasy often does ‘get away with it’. Books also work when the Christian element is entirely appropriate to the era in which the book is set, though this can still be scuppered by too much Christian langauge and phrasing – ie specific details of prayers people are praying. In general, we find that people do not like buying a novel, and then finding out that it has ‘an agenda’, so if a book is being positioned as Christian fiction for a general market then it really MUST be that. As has been well pointed out by the article we’re all commenting on, there are a number of books by Christian authors which are absolutely fine for even the most religion resistant reader. In those cases, sometimes, we then get into trouble from our Christian customers for not having ENOUGH religious content! 😉

          All that said though, all those of us who ARE making a real attempt to publish good, strong, Christian fiction for a broadly Christian readership would benefit hugely if a) Christians who enjoy reading fiction would take a chance on a couple of titles and find out for themselves how Christian fiction has changed, b) encourage others to do the same and c) talk about it or, tweet, blog, review on line, comment to the shop from which they bought it, to the publisher or in fact anywhere other fiction readers might see and take notice!

          • Simon Morden October 17, 2013, 9:02 AM

            Hello. Sorry to be so late to the party. You said “in the UK, where there is considerable resistance to ANY religious element in a novel in the ABA (general) sector”.

            A recent review of my (Philip K Dick award-winning) Equations of Life (Orbit, 2011) said this:

            “Another aspect of this series which appealed to me was Morden’s unflinching inclusion of religious belief in the narrative. One of the central characters is Roman Catholic. The language of an emerging force in the first novel (and a recurring theme in the second and third) includes the term “Jihad” in a fairly accurate context. The “Reconstructionist” United States has a deep seated Christianity-based religious bias which is fundamentally undermined by compromises made at the highest levels and decisions to eliminate any potential threats. If that sounds familiar, it should. By including this aspect of real life, Morden adds further realistic depth to his tales.”

            Books 2, 3, and 4 (currently writing book 5) carry on those themes. Christianity is portrayed as it’s practised. In book 3, one sub-plot involves the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith. In my next (out in January), several of the lead characters are practising Jews.

            Now, either my publisher is a rarity, or what you mean when you say “considerable resistance to ANY religious element” is not what it looks like. Certainly, there’d be considerable resistance to uncritically preaching Christianity within a novel, because that’s not writing a novel any more. But including religious elements or religious characters? I’ve been doing it for years.

  • Laura K. Cowan July 31, 2013, 12:54 PM

    This is exactly what has been happening with me. Thanks for this article. I write literary/horror/supernatural/mainstream/contemporaryfantasy with a Christian worldview, and I have always had a suspicion that what I really need is a mainstream/literary publisher that will let me write fiction with spiritual themes, not the other way around. In fact when I almost found a publisher for my first novel, the Christian publisher who almost took it ended up not taking it on because they didn’t know how to market it to their audience. I’m glad they didn’t rope me into a contract and let the book fail within the CBA machine, at least.

  • Rebeca Seitz July 31, 2013, 12:58 PM

    I’d also like to point out that we specialize in helping promote fiction writers at the for-profit I own, Glass Road Media & Management. Many authors we’ve helped launch are now best-sellers in both CBA and ABA. We focus on taking Christian novelists into the mainstream, securing media placement in mainstream outlets (USA Today, Today Show, NPR, CNN, Southern Living) as well as letting the CBA audience know of their existence.

    If you’re a novelist who is a Christian whose work will be of interest to lovers of stories regardless of their faith background, we can usually help – and we LOVE doing so!

    • Susanne Lakin July 31, 2013, 1:07 PM

      Hi Rebecca, I can’t find any place on your publicity site or your personal blog with a contact button or contact info. Can you tell people how to get in touch with you about promotion, and can you do promotion solely for the general market? Thanks!
      Susanne

      • Rebeca Seitz July 31, 2013, 1:15 PM

        Ack! I didn’t realize our “Get In Touch” link was down. Will fix that today. In the meantime, my email is rebeca@glassroadmm.com.
        In answer to your question, yes, we tailor campaigns to the specific desires of the author and demands of the novel.

        • Rebeca Seitz July 31, 2013, 1:26 PM

          And the contact section is now fixed. Whew! 🙂

  • Rick Barry July 31, 2013, 1:18 PM

    On a totally different note, earlier this week some friends and I were discussing authors whose blogs offer thought-provoking content that repeatedly draws readers back. Mike, you are certainly accomplishing that!

  • C. J. Darlington July 31, 2013, 1:24 PM

    I haven’t read through all the comments here yet, but I really don’t think the issue is whether or not Bertrand is published with a Christian publisher or a secular publisher. There are SO MANY talented authors in the general market who also have slower sales due to the economy or discover-ability, or other factors.

    Case in point: J.K. Rowling’s novel written under an unknown pseudonym had minimal sales, even though it was well-written and received glowing reviews. Was that her publisher’s fault? Not to cause a flame session, but I don’t think it’s fair to make blanket statements about Christian publishers like this.

  • Cathy West July 31, 2013, 1:28 PM

    While I agree with this article, I also backed up and read Nick’s comments a couple of times. As an author who tends to write with a mainstream slant, I’m not sure if I’ll land a contract with a major CBA publisher. My first two novels were published through a small press, and pretty well received, but I’ve gotten enough comments from well meaning Christians telling me that some of what I had to say or the way I said it, was not appreciated, that I’m questioning where I’m meant to be. If the majority of CBA readers are content to stay in the shallow, safe waters with the familiar shore a toe step away, what reason would a major CBA publisher have to take on projects that might not appeal to those readers? Until there are enough CBA readers asking them for something new, I don’t think things will change. Instead, those readers will look elsewhere, and find the fiction they’re looking for on the same shelves that house offerings like 50 Shades. Perhaps it is time for authors who write from a Christian worldview to shift toward trying to find a home in the mainstream, rather than banging our heads against the brick walls of CBA until we bleed or pass out. For me, there’s a big difference between writing to reach the lost (you hear this a lot in Christian publishing) and walking among them. I don’t have any answers for the publishing dilemma, but I’m seeking, trusting and waiting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts so honestly, Mike. I appreciate you. 🙂

    • Kathleen L. Maher September 8, 2013, 9:35 AM

      Cathy, I agree that edgier fiction of any genre will probably make a bigger splash in the general market. I want to make the shift toward trying to find a home in the mainstream market, now that this has become more clear to me. But in the meanwhile I have signed on with a CBA agent, one that doesn’t have a reputation for selling in the general market. So it seems I am at an impasse. Rather than waiting for my agent to make more inroads into those markets, I am seeing several Christian writer friends have great success finding their readers through indie. I believe those readers are out there, and many brave writers are proving it with great sales.

  • D.M. Dutcher July 31, 2013, 1:34 PM

    The thing is though, they’ll publish them if they target women. That means women main characters and a style of fiction that women like. With good reason, look at Nick’s comment thread. 90% of replies are from women.

    Even SF. Everyone says “Oh, they don’t publish Christian spec fic,” but Anne Elizabeth Stengl has six fantasy books out and Donita Paul likewise. Even Marcher Lord gets this-look at what book they sent to the Christy’s; Morgan Busse’s Daughter of Light, which is similar. Of course Bertrand’s going to struggle, because it sounds like he writes noirish procedurals with male main characters. Unless he can tap into something that appeals to women, like the Da Vinci Code, it’s a tough sell.

    I think the industry and men in general need to discuss and look at why Christian fiction, or often fiction in general, doesn’t appeal to us. Why is it a safe bet not to write for us?

    • Jill July 31, 2013, 2:38 PM

      It’s an interesting question to ask, but questions like these are always open to the chicken and egg argument. When women began to publish and were ever-increasingly literate, their success was an upward spiral. For some reason, women love to read and write and are good at it. Did the women change the market enough that men no longer wanted to take part in it? Or do men just not have as much interest in reading? Both? Rest assured, though, that the majority of prestigious awards still go to men.

    • Rebecca LuElla Miller August 1, 2013, 11:26 AM

      And yet James Rubart won the Christy Award for Visionary, D. M.

      I think speculative fiction shows that there are men who read Christian fiction if we’ll only let them know there’s something there for them to read.

      Becky

  • Ray Ferguson July 31, 2013, 1:41 PM

    I’m 62. I started reading fiction about age 10; first Ian Fleming, then Edgar Rice Burroughs, then Conan Doyle, then got a library card and discovered science fiction. That did it! Got saved somewhere around 14, and didn’t even know there was christian fiction. Reading everything I could get my hands on, I would buy a paperback sometimes and tear it in half so I had something to read in between classes, then I’d tape it back together with some glue also and loan or give it to a friend. Sorry, never read any Amish or romance fiction, but read tons of sci-fi, horror, crime, mysteries, just about any genre of fiction. Ok, a little non-fiction, but not much. After 52 years, still reading all I can get my hands or “nook” on and would love to support Christian writers when I was able. Thanks for this great blog topic, found it in my e-mail this morning!

    • Rebeca Seitz July 31, 2013, 3:07 PM

      Hi, Ray. If you’re 62 and got saved at 14, you’re off the hook for not knowing “Christian fiction” existed. It didn’t. At least, not in the segregated form it is today. That started in 1979 with the publication of Janette Oke’s LOVE COMES SOFTLY by Bethany House, acquired by Carol Johnson. 🙂

  • Kaye Dacus July 31, 2013, 1:53 PM

    While I’m all for the idea that all genres of fiction written with a Christian worldview need to be promoted and accessible to wider audiences, let’s not make this about hating on romance written from that same worldview. Romance authors, both in the CBA and the general market, are among some of the most successful authors (numbers-wise and readership, if not always financially), and yet we take the highest amount of flack from everyone else in the industry. Even in my grad-school program, which is genre-based and supposedly unbiased toward any genre (horror, mystery, suspense, YA, romance, etc.), we romance authors continually had to defend ourselves in workshops led by a few of the leading professors in the program (horror writers and mystery writers themselves) because they continually dumped on romance as the sewer of the fiction world. Just because there are similarities from romance novel to romance novel and “interchangeable covers” for them (how many unique covers are there for any genre?—just look at this list to see how interchangeable covers are in EVERY genre: http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/19-book-cover-cliches) doesn’t mean that romance authors don’t work just as long and hard to hone our craft or do our research or write our books as authors in every other genre. You may not respect romance as a genre, but please don’t belittle the genre or the authors who tirelessly write it because, forgive the pun, it’s their passion.

  • Lena Nelson Dooley July 31, 2013, 2:34 PM

    I’m not sure I agree with everything the writer of this article said. I know plenty of readers who will read every Christian crime novel they can get their hands on.

    One thing I do agree with is that J Mark Bertrand’s novels are wonderful reads. I highly recommend them to readers.

  • ReBecca Bartunek July 31, 2013, 2:56 PM

    I very much disliked this article, mostly because of the snide and snarky view of “bonnet books,” and the accusations that Christian publishers are just churning out doe-eyed heroines with stories that all look alike. It makes me so sad to see people in our own industry disparaging other writers, editors and publishing houses. Especially when you see books like Francine River’s “Redeeming Love” or “The Atonement Child” out there…no one in their right mind could call that bonnet fiction. Rather, that was a huge risk the publisher took to publish such controversial topics as abortion. The whole point of writing Christian fiction is to lay our talents at the feet of Christ, and if some writers do that through “bonnet fiction,” and others through crime fiction, let them all be convinced in their own minds that they do it to the glory of God, rather than to have a stage. I am personal friends with many so-called “bonnet writers,” and I know they get letters from people regularly, thanking them for writing books that have encouraged them in the Lord. These “bonnet writers” are servants of God, so I have to ask Mr. Duran: “Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.” [Romans 14:4] It is God who decides the timing and reach of the “stage” He puts us on. It is entirely possible that Bertrand will influence for Christ many more people through a secular publisher than a Christian publisher…perhaps that is God’s very design for his message through Bertrand. That being said, it’s possible Christian publishers are missing the point…it’s possible they are guided by dollar signs rather than the spirit of God and what He wants them to publish. If so, that is a huge indictment. And if so, the solution isn’t to give talent the stage. The solution is to pray our Christian publishers will be increasingly lead by God to proclaim His Name His way. But that’s not what Mr. Duran seems most concerned with in this article. Here, he seems almost whiny that Christian publishers are giving way too much page space to “bonnet books.” His underlying point seems to be that talent is what deserves to be given the stage. God’s Word says He sees it very differently. His measuring stick is not talent. God shows us throughout His Word that the one who is submitted to Him, is the one who gets the stage. But that stage may look very different than what we’d imagined. If God doesn’t give us or another talented individual the stage we want when we want it, the answer isn’t to blame the publishers or even our fellow writers–“bonnet writers” or not. Proverbs 14:30 tells us how that will end: “A heart at peace gives life to the body, but envy rots the bones.” I pray that Mr. Bertrand will continue to work hard, honing his craft, and that he will commit himself more and more fully to Christ, so that when God does provide him with his stage, he will be fully prepared to give a “reason for the hope that lies within.” And I pray the same for every Christian writer, including myself. Lord, may proclaiming Your love always be more important than our talents.

    • Teddi Deppner July 31, 2013, 3:20 PM

      ReBecca… I can appreciate your comment. I often am sensitive to the way Christians sometimes bash other Christians, whether it’s about somebody disparaging someone else’s ministry or their fiction genre. It’s silly to bash missionaries to China because you are a missionary to Brazil. Let’s embrace the fact that we all have different calls?

      However, after re-reading Mike’s article, I think perhaps you over-reacted in this particular case. He referenced “bonnet” books one single time and did not disparage them — I don’t see a sentence anywhere that he actually said they were bad or useless or even that they were poorly written.

      His beef with the CBA is that it fails to serve a HUGE part of the Christian market — those of us outside the demographic who like the bonnet books. Especially men. I tend to have male tastes in my fiction — I like science fiction. Occasionally fantasy and other speculative genres. Rarely I’ll do contemporary crime or suspense. But I’m with Mike inside that demographic group who just don’t pick up the stuff the CBA sells. So I rarely darken the doors of Christian bookstores, unless I’m buying a Bible.

      I love so much of what you said, ReBecca. God is looking at the heart, not the talent. Nonetheless, look closely before accusing Mike of bashing the bonnet writers. We don’t want to do away with them. Just add some books to the shelves that are missing. Or perhaps move all the books to a bigger bookshelf with a wider audience. 🙂

      • Nick Harrison July 31, 2013, 3:39 PM

        Teddi, the fact that you “don’t pick up the stuff CBA sells” and “rarely darken the doors of Christian bookstores” is what we Christian publishers are up against when we try to publish to your tastes. If the folks here who want to see these genres succeed in CBA, they (and many others) need to be aware when authors like Brandt Dodson, Mark Bertrand, Bryan Polivka, and others are published. If you don’t buy good quality books when we publish them, how can we be faulted when those books don’t succeed?

        • D.M. Dutcher July 31, 2013, 4:11 PM

          But there’s not much way we can be aware. There are no publications like Asimov’s or the Magazine of F and SF for Christian genre fiction, and you guys don’t do separate imprints for your non-bonnet books. It’s not like there’s a Tor.com for us either. Even just a cardboard shelf point-of-sale display showing a few Christian spec or thriller books might help.

          • Teddi Deppner July 31, 2013, 4:24 PM

            Thanks for making that point, D.M. I was thinking it, but chose to make other points. But I totally agree. It’s on the publisher to make the reader aware of what’s available if they want to succeed. A challenging prospect, but that’s the nature of the business world.

            The good news is that word-of-mouth is still effective, and will continue to be so. Moreso than ever, with how connected people are these days. That’s how I heard about Tosca Lee and Shannon Dittemore and the other rare CBA folks who are writing what I enjoy reading.

            • Rebecca LuElla Miller August 1, 2013, 11:39 AM

              I was going to say, Teddi, you and D. M. are both some time visitors at Spec Faith, so you know there are people trying to make readers aware of Christian speculative fiction. Word of mouth has always been the book industry’s most powerful marketing tool. So are we talking about the writers we’re hearing about?

              Take the Clive Staples Award for Christian Speculative Fiction. I can probably count on one hand the number of blog posts that mentioned the award and, most importantly, the nominated books. There were, in essence, reader endorsements, and we were . . . indifferent to the opportunity to inform other readers.

              Becky

              • D.M. Dutcher August 1, 2013, 8:47 PM

                The general answer is that there’s a difference between fans and unpaid publicists. I know virally spreading information is important, but in a lot of ways there’s an increasing amount of work being dumped on the author or consumer. It’s understandable with shoestring efforts, but if I like a book there’s starring it, reviewing it for multiple websites, blogging about it, and other things that seem to now be the domain of fans. I have gotten fatigued with it myself, to the point where even reviewing on goodreads gets old due to me essentially giving that site tons of content for free.

                In specific, I think most of the people who follow me either know already about the award, or wouldn’t be interested since they like anime. I should probably ask them.

        • Teddi Deppner July 31, 2013, 4:18 PM

          I hear your pain, Nick. Nonetheless, the damage is done. The damage was done back when I went into Christian bookstores as a young adult in the ’80s and ’90s and found disappointing results.

          The Christian bookstore didn’t have what I liked to read, so I didn’t return. How can you fault me for that? We can stand here all day pointing fingers at each other, but I’m not interested in that (and I’m sure you’re not either).

          Which is why I said what I did in my other comment. Everybody knows what the CBA majors in (or they find out soon enough). Personally, I don’t know why people get so mad at ya’all for doing what you do best.

          So…. either CBA publishers spend a large amount of effort (and money) and rebrand themselves and start publishing enough other genres by Christian authors until readers start expecting that from them… or just recognize your niche and stick with it. Nothing wrong with that. Isn’t that what everyone in publishing is saying these days? “Find your niche.” The CBA knows its niche. If anything, CBA publishers may need narrow things down to the strongest elements of their niche(s) to survive the changes in the publishing world.

          Let new publishers arise that handle other genres from a Christian worldview.

          Let authors of the new publishing era arise, and let them succeed in their own ways. Banding together under indie labels (a la Marcher Lord Press and Splashdown Books) or doing it individually (a la insert_Christian_version_of_Amanda_Hocking_or_Hugh_Howey_here).

          P.S. Just because I don’t go to Christian bookstores doesn’t mean I don’t buy books by Christian authors. I go out of my way to find Christian authors whose work I *do* enjoy and purchase those online, regardless of who their publishers are.

          • Nick Harrison July 31, 2013, 4:28 PM

            The irony is that most editors I know would love to see new genres succeed. We just don’t know how to do it. 🙂

            • Rebeca Seitz July 31, 2013, 6:20 PM

              I’ve got it, Nick. Let’s put together a team to take two years to visit every single ABA bookstore – chain and indy – in the country. That’s roughly 10k bookstores. Insist that they shelve HH fiction in the general market section, by genre. Let it sell through for one year (putting promo behind it, etc.). Then compare those numbers with the sales numbers produced by placing it in the CF ghetto. That would give us good info about whether CBA publishers – if shelved with the rest of the population – could actually make a go of it.

              Also, we’ll have to talk to the BISAC codes folks so that Religious/Fiction isn’t the only option (or maybe isn’t an option at all). 🙂 I vote for just putting it in FICTION and sub-categorizing as appropriate.

              And I’m not even half-kidding about either of these ideas. 🙂 CBA publishers must find a way to put their food in front of the fish who actually LIKE that bait. Otherwise, why be in the pond at all?

      • ReBecca Bartunek August 1, 2013, 4:54 PM

        Teddi, you and I are in total agreement, as your first paragraph states. Thank you for hearing the heart of what I had to say. Christians judging, bashing or even being snobby to one another is something that has always broken my heart. Jesus prayed in agony, just before his crucifixion, that we would have unity. It’s possible that you’re also right in saying that I overreacted. However, to be clear, this is the particular phrase I was reacting to: “A new title rolls in and the marketing department just rearranges all the typical pieces: bonnet, covered wagon, parasol, petticoat, doe-eyed lass. Check, check, check! It’s a quick cut-and-paste affair.” This is intensely offensive to me, because it infers that formula is all there is to Christian romance, and that those who write it are hacks. I would venture to guess that most Christian romance writers would consider this sentence to be a belittling of their ministry. Especially given the climate toward Christian romance writers that exists in many writing circles today. But again, thank you for your thoughtful response…in speaking out for Christian romance writers, I have not encountered many like you who have taken my comments in the spirit they were intended.

    • Rebeca Seitz July 31, 2013, 3:29 PM

      I just had to reply to this as it is infused with sentiments I’ve seen throughout my career promoting novelists.

      First, the idea that “God shows us throughout His Word that the one who is submitted to Him, is the one who gets the stage,” made me shake my head. While that’s true, stating it in this manner and in this context begs the question – So, people who aren’t writing bonnet or historical romance aren’t “submitted to Him” therefore they don’t “get the stage”? Of course not. The faith level or sincerity of Godly pursuit of these writers isn’t what’s keeping them from reaching the audience for whom they were called to write. It isn’t keeping them from being offered a publishing contract. Their level of “submission to Him” isn’t a factor in the discussion unless you believe that all writers “submitted to Him” would evidence such by writing bonnet or historical romance.

      Second, I’ve gotta say I appreciated the tone of the email. Clever. Witty. Insightful. Direct. Sometimes you’ve gotta knock a few tables over to wake folks up. At least, that’s what Jesus did when He talked to the people in His own house about an issue, which is what the author of this blog post is doing.

      Third, I’ve watched and participated with great interest and reflection in the explosion, then implosion, of “Christian fiction” (meaning fiction published by CBA houses). I think it bears much consideration that God appears to be allowing the shrinking of shelf space for most genres in CBA, but not limiting that space in ABA. Perhaps it’s important that we embrace the storied history of our forebears and put our novels alongside our non-faith counterparts. This is how He had us work for many, many decades. It’s why there was an incredible friendship between Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, and Arthur C. Clarke. Tolkien and Lewis witnessed faithfully to Clarke throughout that friendship. If I recall correctly, Lewis even credited Tolkien with being a major factor in leading him to the Lord.

      Finally, this should not be an “either/or” discussion. Faith, Christianity, sincerity of Godly pursuit – these things are not evidenced by your calling, but by whether you follow the specificity of your calling – even in the face of judgment or condescension from within or without the Church. To wit, if you are called to preach to the choir (which has sin in it, and needs a good sermon or two!), then preach. If you are called to preach to the unbelieving, then preach. And, while you speak to the audience He gave you, smile and nod at your fellow writer who speaks to the audience granted him or her. Neither of you is more Godly. Neither more Christian. Both are necessary for the body to be complete.

      • Rachel Smith August 1, 2013, 3:19 PM

        Well said, Rebecca. Well said indeed. This is the attitude EVERY writer should have. Just because I choose to remove explicit mentions of Christianity in my writing doesn’t mean I’m less holy or have abandoned my “calling”. It just means I know where my audience is, and how best to reach them.

        Kernels and seeds of truth go much further than a bucket over the head.

      • ReBecca Bartunek August 1, 2013, 5:17 PM

        Rebecca, I’m glad you posted this reply, giving me an opp0rtunity to clear up any misunderstanding.
        You wrote: “First, the idea that “God shows us throughout His Word that the one who is submitted to Him, is the one who gets the stage,” made me shake my head. While that’s true, stating it in this manner and in this context begs the question – So, people who aren’t writing bonnet or historical romance aren’t “submitted to Him” therefore they don’t “get the stage”?”
        That is NOT where I was going with this. I simply meant that talent is less important to God than a willing heart–evidenced by the fact that He used a stutterer (Moses) to speak to a King to free his people. And I also do NOT mean that Mr. Bertrand is not submitted, and that’s why he’s not been given his stage. And neither do I mean that writers who are Christian won’t be used by God unless they have obvious Christian messages.
        You also wrote: “The faith level or sincerity of Godly pursuit of these writers isn’t what’s keeping them from reaching the audience for whom they were called to write. It isn’t keeping them from being offered a publishing contract. Their level of “submission to Him” isn’t a factor in the discussion unless you believe that all writers “submitted to Him” would evidence such by writing bonnet or historical romance.”
        Again, it seems my point was not made clearly. I did NOT say that their faith level or sincerity of Godly pursuit is what is keeping these writers from reaching their audience. Far from it. Rather, that God is the one who is firmly in control of our writing careers and the publishing houses. Beyond that, I cannot explain why a person’s books are not yet published on a wider scale, because I am not God. I just know He’s in control…of my writing career, and of Mr. Bertrand’s. And that’s good enough for me. Personally, I believe that if Mr. Bertrand was made by God to write, and if he was given this talent for a purpose, then as God’s word tells us, this will be accomplished. But it will be accomplished by God, and in His time. “The Lord will fulfill his purpose for me.” Psalm 138:8 I believe it’s very possible that the Lord has more planned for Mr. Bertrand and Christian publishing than any of us can know right now. All we can do in the meantime, is to work as if it depends on us, and pray because we know it depends on God.

  • Michael K. Reynolds July 31, 2013, 3:35 PM

    I just finished a tour of bookstores all throughout California and it breaks my heart to see the Christian bookshelves shrinking in Barnes & Noble (down to one Christian fiction shelf in most LA & SF stores). This greatly limits new, dynamic authors in breaking in and, quite frankly, makes the selection overly narrow and cliched. It’s also frustrating to see our shelves HIDDEN in the back of the stores and branded with a, “Warning…Jesus may be spoken of in these books.”

    But the problem is NOT with the secular bookstores, it’s with the Christian readership. If you look to see what IS featured in the front shelves and in heavy supply in secular bookstores, that is what is being bought. A large majority of those are being bought by Christians and many of those books are ones they would not be proud to let the folks at their Bible study know they were reading. This is especially true of what’s secretly being downloaded to Kindles and Nooks.

    You want GREAT, amazing, God honoring, family friendly literature. It’s out there and there’s more waiting to be published. Do your homework, check out the reviews, buy these books, and then let the rest of the world know.

    • Teddi Deppner July 31, 2013, 4:32 PM

      This idea that “it’s the reader’s fault” can be taken too far, but I think there’s a lot of truth to how poorly many Christians live out their faith in their choices of entertainment.

      If more of us refused the mammon version, the entertainment-makers might get a clue and make something different.

      Totally agree with your last comment about getting out there and finding the good stuff, Michael. I so appreciate hearing perspectives from so many folks here. Love that so many are weighing in!

      Like the proverb says, it’s foolish to judge a matter without hearing both sides. I hope that with every swing of our word-swords (which admittedly come from different directions, are headed in different directions, and inevitably clash because of that), we are sharpening each other and stirring each other on to good works!

  • Nick Harrison July 31, 2013, 4:30 PM

    Another factor in all this–also a little depressing is that currently CBA fiction is in somewhat of a slump. Some say publishers are overpublishing and there’s just too much out there for readers to wade through. A spark of creativity that would send CBA fiction in a new direction would be welcome, frankly.

    • Teddi Deppner July 31, 2013, 4:34 PM

      As always, love your heart, Nick. Thanks for being part of this discussion. 🙂

  • Margaret July 31, 2013, 5:07 PM

    Hmmm. I’m a Christian, white, female over 40 and I don’t read romance at all, Amish rarely, and historical occasionally. My fiction pile consists of mostly speculative and science fiction books. I hope that Christian publishers wake up before they lose out.

  • Athol Dickson July 31, 2013, 5:55 PM

    Mike, you wrote: “Bertrand’s problem is not that he’s “a major crime-fiction talent,” but that “religious publishers” don’t know how in the hell to market “a major crime-fiction talent”!”

    I often agree with your rants about the world of publishing, but this is not the publisher’s fault. One might as well blame Macy’s for not selling the world’s finest raincoats in Phoenix.

    Mark Bertrand is indeed an excellent writer, but I knew after the first chapter of his first novel that the vast majority of CBA readers would not want to read what he writes. So if you’re trying to explain why he gots great reviews and poor sales you should have stuck with your first instinct, when you mentioned that most CBA readers are white females over 45. Because that is the problem. Those women are not interested in reading Mark’s descriptions of the aftermath of violent murders. And that is absolutely not his publisher’s fault.

    What’s his publisher supposed to do? Invent a market out of thin air? Force those women to read what they do not want to read?

    Or is the idea is that Mark’s publisher didn’t really try, or didn’t have the chops? If so, I’m pretty sure that’s also wrong. I’ve been published by Mark’s publisher, Bethany House, and also by Zondervan, Tyndale, and Howard. Bethany House’s marketing ability in the CBA is head and shoulders above the others. If ANY publisher could have sold Mark’s novels in a market that doesn’t want to read police procedurals, my bet would have been on Bethany House.

    The real problem here is very simple, and it’s been blogged to death in the Christian fiction world, so it’s difficult to understand why it still needs to be said. But apparently it does, so here goes:

    We live in a culture where nobody outside the CBA wants to read a novel with an overt Christian message. Also, readers in the CBA have strong genre preferences. Those are facts. No amount of grousing about it will change it. There’s no right or wrong to it. And only a snob would insist there’s anything wrong with it, because readers have every right to read exactly what they want to read.

    So if one wants to write police procedurals as Mark does, or more “literary” novels as I once did, and if one also wants to SELL said novels in a real world marketplace, one must omit the overt Christian themes and market to the ABA. Period. End. Fade out.

    Of course, there is another path. If one wants to write Christian themed novels in a genre not much appreciated by CBA readers, then one can take satisfaction in doing the work, and in the (very few) readers who appreciate the work, and one can thank God for any publisher willing to put up enough money to get it into print. Such a publisher should be praised for risking the dough to give the work a shot, not panned because they failed to convince thousands of readers to buy something that they just don’t want to read.

    Raincoats are not ever going to sell in Phoenix, no matter how well those raincoats might be made. It would be pointless to try to sell them there, pointless to complain about it, and more than a little crazy, frankly, to blame it on Macy’s.

    • Rebeca Seitz July 31, 2013, 6:11 PM

      Athol, you know I love you. You know I absolutely LOVED promoting your novels – literary and anything else you ever write. You’re a fantastic, gifted, incredible writer whom I will read until you stop writing. 🙂 Your works are ones I recommend to anyone – regardless of faith background – who wants to write with excellence.

      But, what?! “…one must omit the overt Christian themes and market to the ABA.” WHAT?!

      If that means, “One must omit a cheesy, Come to Jesus Moment, that is not organic to the story and is clearly a sermon glaringly dropped in the midst of a good story and kill off any characters who feel a need to preach or speak in terms and phrases only understood in the shadow of a steeple,” okay, I’m with ya, brother.

      If that means, “Don’t let your character discuss or wrestle with Christian ideas or concepts, or talk about the Bible (much less quote it), or pray, or go to church, or do anything that can directly communicate ‘Christian’,” well, WHAT?! I submit THE CINDERELLA DEAL by Jennifer Crusie as a supreme example of how a character can actually read from scripture (Job) in the middle of a (very steamy) romance novel and it works.

      But you were referencing the former, right? Please say yes. (Lie if ya need to.)

      Also, raincoats in Phoenix. Let’s do it. Hey, a swamp worked for Walt Disney! All we need is the government’s ability to control the weather. (Oh yes they can. Just ask SyFy.)

      • Athol Dickson August 1, 2013, 8:08 AM

        Rebeca, sadly, I can’t make it better. Believe me, I do wish I could. When I mentioned “overt Christian themes,” I wasn’t thinking of the kind of cheesy “come to Jesus” novel you described. (Those novels shouldn’t be published ANYWHERE.) But I also wasn’t thinking of a morality tale which contains a universal truth that could have been written by a well-meaning Buddhist, Muslim, Jew, or atheist. I mean “a pervasive theme which is openly connected to Jesus.” And I am saying with a high degree of certainty that novels with that kind of theme do not typically sell well in the ABA. If they did, after nearly 20 years of writing novels I would know about it, and I would be writing for that market, absolutely. We can all think of a few ABA titles to the contrary, just as we can think of a few CBA titles that somehow got away with being “edgy” or “literary,” but unfortunately those lists are very short.

    • Teddi Deppner July 31, 2013, 6:42 PM

      Fascinating! So many facets to this discussion. So many angles to look at.

      Athol’s comments press my mind in yet another direction. Mike’s post asserts that a crime has been committed, and that there is a victim (or victims). (Sure, maybe it was just a tongue-in-cheek title for the post, but bear with me…) Athol responds that there was no crime, because the CBA never was intended nor designed to serve other demographics.

      But what if this isn’t the failure to sell raincoats in Phoenix? What if this is really the failure to sell sunscreen in Phoenix?

      What if part of the angst felt by those not served by the CBA isn’t simply entertainment genre preferences? What if what we really want is Christian fiction that deals with REAL issues the way the Bible does, the way the world needs it to?

      Two things especially concern me:

      – What are we teaching our children, when we only give them “sanitized” stories? At what point do they decide (in their hearts) that Mom and Dad are out of touch with the real world and cannot be trusted to guide them in the harsh realities of real life?

      – What are we telling the world, when the bulk of published Christian art can only be appreciated by those already inside its own little fandom? When our art is a fantasy of what we wish life was like, rather than a portrait of some facet of God’s beauty (and majesty and wisdom and love) set in the world in which they (the lost) actually live?

      If we’re actually failing on that score… then it is something Macy’s (ahem) ought to take to heart.

      And before we blame the readers again… Maybe we ought to look beyond them to the church culture that created them in the first place. Perhaps the crime was committed not by the publishers in the CBA, but by those in the pulpit who shaped the readers in the first place. (Whew! Was that the sound of a can of worms opening? I think I need that for my ringtone…)

      • Rebeca Seitz July 31, 2013, 6:51 PM

        What if we – all us Christian folk – embraced the remembrance that THIS IS NOT HOME?

        It’s not supposed to be comfy. We aren’t here to create safe, cozy niches for believing adults (kiddos are another story, to a certain extent), are we? We’re SUPPOSED to feel out of place because we ARE out of place until we’re before the Father’s throne in heaven, bowed down and worshiping.

    • Noelle Buss August 1, 2013, 7:15 AM

      Athol! Thanks so much for your words on Bethany House. We certainly were honored to publish your great stories. If it is possible to be unbiased, I’d say your pretty right on with the rest of your points.

  • Susanne Lakin July 31, 2013, 6:33 PM

    Some of you might like to read my controversial post about the effectiveness of Christian fiction. Some of you might get mad:
    http://thewritelife2.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/author-c-s-lakin-christian-fiction-is-it-effective/
    Enjoy!

    • Teddi Deppner July 31, 2013, 7:40 PM

      Great stuff, Susanne! I’m glad that there is a wide variety of people out there writing, each from their unique background, each with a unique voice to shine God’s love on those around them.

      May we be true to who we are in Christ, and the stories He has for us to write. And may His grace and favor open the way for those stories to reach the readers He has planned for them!

  • R. L. Copple August 1, 2013, 1:22 AM

    I think the CBA and religious publishers are sort of stuck. Here’s why.

    “Marketing” for most books consist of putting it into a catalog and shipping it out to bookstores. From there, more marketing efforts are made for books the publishers thinks they can promote, but the bulk of marketing and sales is focused on bookstores, and predominately Christian bookstores. Of the more secular stores that buy from them, they know their customers will be angry to pick up what they think is a general market book only to discover (gasp!) that it is “Christian propaganda.” (What one potential reviewer wrote upon sending my book back to me, unreviewed…thankfully.) So to be safe, anything that comes from a Christian publisher gets put in its own section to avoid those angry customers who might feel tricked into buying something they don’t like.

    Bottom line, religious publishers don’t have many ways to reach anyone other than their niche. If you don’t write for that niche, it’s going to be tough to market and sell to that niche. To change that niche for publishers is going to take a major shift in audience expectations that would no doubt take some prolonged cash investment with expected losses over the first years until a readership could be built. Thus the reason their stuck, except for the case of some outliers.

    There really isn’t much option for most writers of genre’s that don’t fit the CBA mold than to go general market. In many ways, that isn’t a bad idea either.

  • Noelle Buss August 1, 2013, 7:09 AM

    Loving this article and these comments! But if I may offer a slight defence. Believe you mean, as a publishing house Bethany House wants to diversify. Bertrand and Hoesel are evidence of that, as is my personal favorite– debut fantasy writer Patrick W. Carr. Granted historical fiction is what we do really well and have been doing the longest so the credibility and relationships that we’ve developed there are strongest. But publishing is not a simple direct to consumer situation. You still have book buyers, reporters and other influential people in the ABA industry who often won’t give CF a chance. There is still the stigma that the quality will be sub-par and that they are going to be pistol whipped with a salvation message every other page. On the other hand you have plain logistical issues that get in the way. For instance, Barnes and Noble has a buyer for science fiction/fantasy and a separate religious buyer. Both individuals get very territorial and either won’t give up a book that can count for sales in their section, or don’t want to give up shelf space. In short, it is nigh impossible to get a CF to appear anywhere outside it’s section. So lack of visibility isn’t for lack of trying. And sometimes, like with Steven James, traction happens and it’s a wonderful sight to behold. So in short, I just mean to say, this whole situation isn’t as simple as it seems and we celebrate diversity just as much as you do.

    • Rebecca LuElla Miller August 1, 2013, 12:06 PM

      Margaret, as it happens, there’s quite a bit of speculative fiction that is out there now. I mentioned earlier the Clive Staples Award for Christian Speculative Fiction. This is entirely a readers’ choice award, so readers nominated the books to be considered. There were 33 books published by a royalty paying publisher in 2012 that received consideration. Of those, 16 were published by Evangelical Christian Publishing Association houses and 17 by newer independent publishers. The thing is, there are more that could have been named–books that sold well but for whatever reason didn’t make the list of nominees.

      I suggest that it’s pretty hard for fans of the genre to buy and read all 33. There’s not a want of books, I suggest. There’s a want of awareness that the books are out there.

      Becky

  • Kathleen Y'Barbo-Turner August 1, 2013, 7:26 AM

    I continue to be stunned by the number of times I see quotes such as this one I read above: “Maybe things have changed in the ten-odd years since I’ve really paid any attention to the CBA-market, but considering Christian fiction is even more Amish/romance/historical skewed than it was back then, I kind of doubt it.”

    There are genres I haven’t read in ten years or more. I have yet to feel compelled to offer an opinion on any of them.

  • Kaye Dacus August 1, 2013, 7:56 AM

    Let me make an analogy to how I’m interpreting much of what’s being said in this blog post and in the comments (again, this is MY interpretation)—

    YOU: Harlequin needs to diversify their readership

    ME: Why? They seem to reach their target readership pretty well.

    YOU: I’ve been pitching my book to them for years, and they keep telling me that it doesn’t fit with what they publish.

    ME: What’s your book about?

    YOU: It’s a horror novel.

    Okay, yes, that’s an extreme take on this discussion, but allow me to give another example:

    The Coca-Cola company built its reputation and brand on their main product: Coke. In 1985, they decided they needed to change, to “modernize,” their product. And we all remember what happened with “New” Coke—they almost lost everything until they went back to what they were known for, what their customer base wanted—Original Coke.

    This discussion, especially reading comments from people who don’t even read Christian fiction but who still want to gripe about the CBA and the readership they’re targeting, reminds me of someone giving a book a 1-star review on Amazon because they don’t like the cover design and the back-cover copy, but can’t be bothered to actually read the book. Don’t like what the CBA is doing? Then don’t pitch your manuscripts to CBA publishers. CBA publishers won’t publish what you write? Cry me a river—there are plenty of general-market publishers out there who don’t publish what you (or I) write, too. CBA readers don’t want to read what you write? Then it’s incumbent on you to find publishers who are reaching the audience you write for.

    There’s a very nasty air of entitlement to this post and many of the comments I’ve read here—it’s an attitude that says: because a business has a certain label on it (Christian, in this instance) and because I claim to have the same label, then this business should bend over backwards to accommodate ME. ME. ME. It’s all about ME. CBA publishers are in business to make money. And they’ve cultivated a certain audience by providing a certain product. Just like Coca-Cola.

    And until you actually read and study what CBA publishers are publishing, how can you know who their audience is? How can you know what quality of work they’re publishing? And how can you work to change attitudes in an industry you, self-proclaimedly, know nothing about other than your own rumor-based preconceptions?

    I’m sorry that this has come across as angry and defensive, but I felt like I needed to be honest about my reaction to all of what I’ve read here.

    • Rachel Smith August 1, 2013, 3:45 PM

      My decision to switch wasn’t easy. But it was based on five+ years of reading nothing but Christian fiction, and being unable to find *anything* that came close to what was coming out of me.

      A lot of what’s been said rings true for me, as the demographic CBA has to capture if they want to still exist in 20 years. And they’ve lost me. I’ve read one CBA book this year. All the rest has been paranormal romance and science fiction. And I have zero interest in checking out Christian science fiction, what little of it there is. I like space opera and colonizing the galaxy and aliens. Not popular themes in Christian circles, and I haven’t seen anything I consider worth my time to try.

      My attempt at writing for the market that did exist, while still writing what I wanted to read, failed. It was historical romance, which I love to read and write. I was told by every agent who read it that it was nice to see something different, but that it was too different and they couldn’t sell it. I’m grateful they were all honest with me about why they couldn’t sign me. But it was still hard to take, knowing I’m the future of the market and the market didn’t want me. (I’m 30)

      I’ve officially crossed over, and I can’t deny the hand of God guiding every decision I’ve made. It’s been amazing! I don’t have to tone things down, or ignore the grittier aspects of what I’m writing about. It’s been very liberating.

      • C. J. Darlington August 1, 2013, 5:30 PM

        You really might like Kathy Tyers and Chris Walley, both published in the CBA (well, Kathy was actually published in the ABA first and has written a Star Wars novel). They do a wonderful job of crafting tales with Christian elements that aren’t boring sci-fi, if you ask me. 🙂

    • Jessica Thomas August 1, 2013, 6:41 PM

      “There’s a very nasty air of entitlement to this post and many of the comments I’ve read here—it’s an attitude that says: because a business has a certain label on it (Christian, in this instance) and because I claim to have the same label, then this business should bend over backwards to accommodate ME. ME. ME. It’s all about ME.”

      I think it’s because the CBA bears the name of Jesus Christ. *Christ*ian Booksellers Association. By their name, they are claiming to represent Christianity, yet in reality they are only representing a small portion of it. What you are perceiving as “ME. ME. ME.” may be hints of anger at the way Christ is being represented. Me personally? I’m not angry at the CBA, but I am skeptical of all forms of Christianity, Inc.

  • Chip August 1, 2013, 8:26 AM

    Nice to see one of the best writers out there get discussed, Mike. Mark Bertrand is a great talent, and eventually he’ll get the attention he deserves. That probably won’t be in the CBA market, which is fine — perhaps a bit too limiting for his readership. But nice of you to let him take the stage.

  • J. Mark Bertrand August 1, 2013, 10:02 AM

    As the subject of the Weekly Standard article, I’d like to chime in. First off, many thanks to Mike for sharing the review. For obvious reasons I would like to see it get as much exposure as possible.

    And since I’m a novelist, I can’t help but tell the story my way. Breen’s review says, essentially, that there’s a major talent at work in Christian fiction and it deserves a wider audience. (Because the talent is mine, it feels slightly awkward to type these words.) If you want to argue against Breen’s main point, I guess we can duke it out. But please don’t lose sight of the main point as the secondary observations about Christian fiction in general are being discussed.

    If you’re well informed about CBA matters, as many of you seem to be, and this is your first time hearing about me or my novels, it’s only natural to wonder why you had to hear about them from the outside. Why weren’t they on your radar screen already? Despite our best efforts over the past couple of years, the Roland March series is one of CBA’s best kept secrets. Could more have been done? Absolutely. Maybe Athol and Noelle are right in thinking that would have been wasted effort, but we’ll never know. Based on the response of readers (including white evangelical women over 45, by the way, a description that encompasses some of the teachers and mentors who kindled my passion for books in the first place) I’m more optimistic about what might have been accomplished.

    Don’t get hung up on that point, though, because what a glowing critical assessment like this ought to do is help people discover the novels that generated the fuss in the first place. That’s an easy thing to do right now considering that Bethany House is giving the first one, BACK ON MURDER, away as a free e-book, and is selling the next two in the series for just a few bucks each. My hope is that you’ll read them and start talking about them, so that this best kept secret can get out.

  • Nick Harrison August 1, 2013, 10:42 AM

    BTW, I have another thought on this. If you think CBA editors are bad gatekeepers (we’re not, of course), just consider ABA gatekeepers. I have no stats to back this up, but just a sense about it. I think NYC editors at the big publishing houses are way out of touch with what many American readers want. There are MANY good CBA authors who could make a lot of money for the ABA houses if the editors there understood there is a huge market for good, clean, well-written fiction, with or without the Christian overtones. Years ago I interviewed Jan Karon’s editor at Penguin. She told me she often sent copies of new books Penguin had published to her mother back in the midwest. Finally her mother asked her, “Don’t you publish fiction that isn’t so dark?’ I think that mother speaks for many American readers, not just Christian readers. But except for a very few editors, that message just doesn’t penetrate the NYC mindset.

  • Susanne Lakin August 1, 2013, 3:18 PM

    A lot of us authors who have been published in CBA are moving to ABA. I can’t see how I would ever write for CBA again, except maybe to write more fantasy/sci-fi. As Rebecca mentioned AMG’s fiction line in mostly speculative, and I applaud them for taking risks and believing in this genre. Although, from the beginning of my writing fantasy I have been confused hearing so many editors say to me there are no readers for fantasy. People in general love fantasy–all you have to do is look at most of the top-selling books in history, which include LOTR and Lewis’s Narnia (Christian writers). I don’t understand why these publishers would think there aren’t Christians out there interested in this genre.

    But we have been seeing a lot of CBA authors moving into the general market and doing very well. All the books I write now are for the general market, and frankly, even all the books I wrote for CBA publishers were written primarily for nonbelievers.

  • Todd Greene August 1, 2013, 5:56 PM

    This is why I, as an aspiring suspense/thriller writer, dropped out of American Christian Fiction Writers and will never publish in a Christian market. Christian culture and marketing are pet peeves of mine. In recent times I’ve decided to forgo legacy publishing entirely and self pub in ebook form exclusively. I hope to have a story or two in the ebook market before the end of the year.

  • Grace Seitz August 1, 2013, 5:59 PM

    If anyone is interested in learning how to get published in the mainstream you need to come to Naples, FL October 3-7 and attend our Spirit of Naples Storytellers Conference. Please check out our website at http://www.sonfilmfest.com for all of the particulars. We would love to see you there.

  • Marion August 2, 2013, 5:10 AM

    Mike,

    You’ve done it again. Another thought-provoking post and the responses have reflected as such.

    Well, I would like to add my perspective from a former bookseller of nearly 10 years (mom-n-pop stores and Borders Books well before they went out of business), also a reader and aspiring novelist.

    It seems to me that many people in Christian Fiction want the next great author to take the genre out of the ghetto and finally be a true counterpart to the big, bad secular fiction in the industry. It kind of reminds of conservatives (I’m one of them) waiting for the next Ronald Reagan to save the Republican Party and usher in a new conservative era in politics.

    However, phenomenona and things that crossover into the holy grail of mainstream success and acceptance are still rare and wildly unpredictable. There may be a young writer somewhere in this country writing their stories that could be the next great author and fulfill their wishes of so many who are dying for the next patron saint of the genre.

    We still talk about Tolkien and Lewis endlessly and both men have been dead a long time now. While, Dekker, Jenkins, and Peretti have captured some mainstream success but have never reached the rarefied air of patron saint status.

    What to do until that writer comes along? Hmm…

    I believe in the baseball analogy of hitting singles, doubles, and even the occasional triple. Like a few people have mentioned, word-of-mouth is still the most effective way of authors reaching readers.

    I have a good example of this effective tool recently. I’m a blogger and I’ve written quite a few reviews on my blog. I done reviews in the last year for Christian Fiction on:

    1) Trophy Chase Trilogy & Blaggard’s Moon by Polivka (That’s for you, Nick. LOL!!)
    2) Daughter of Light by Morgan Busse
    3) Lost Mission & Opposite of Art by Athol Dickson
    4) Safe Lands #1: Captives by Jill Williamson

    The last book was recommended to me by Becky Miller who has already commented on this post. Becky and I are also FB friends and because I know how hard she has worked to promote Christian Speculative Fiction through her website and Speculative Faith….I trust her judgment when it comes to recommendations.

    The second part to this is that I’ve also reviewed novels by John Updike, Paul Auster, Mark Helprin (one of my favorite novelists), Greg Bear, PD James, and Dean Koontz. So my blog readers know that I’m an avid reader and really enthusiastic about a good novel. I have earned their trust because I’ve step outside of my comfort zone to read from any genre. So when I recommended The Sparrow by Mary Dora Russell as one of the best books I’ve read in the last several years…..that can take it on face value.

    As a matter of fact, I’ve given away 6 copies of that novel in the last couple of weeks at my day job. My co-workers know I’m a big reader and since I don’t tell every novel I’ve finished is great….they have come to trust me when I do make a recommendation.

    That’s my point….is that authors have connect with their readers. Write good books, create characters your readers care about and they will stay with you a long time. It seems that old-fashioned and out-of date. But it still works.

    The problem is a lot of people want that home-run or next the patron saint of fiction to gain greater acceptance. But if you are waiting for that…..good luck because you may be waiting awhile. In the meantime on the ground level….keep connecting with your readers and growing the genre one step at a time. That’s where real change takes place.

    Lastly, I want to thank Nick of his perspective from the publishing end. However, I may have a new demographic for you. I’m a black man, conservative, Christian and whose favorite authors are Athol Dickson, PD James, Dean Koontz, & Mark Helprin. What you would call my demographic? How about a “Brother from Another Planet” demographic. Some days I feel like that I am from another planet. LOL!!!

    A little humor to end this post. Life is too short…..in trying to change the publishing industry with one swing of the bat. Let’s get on the base and move runners over until we reached home plate. LOL!!

    Marion

  • Jodie B. August 3, 2013, 9:42 PM

    It is exceptionally hard to use any kind of Christian themes, and even any Christian characters (unless Christianity is being rejected, or unless the characters reject Christianity, then those books get rave reviews for their “realism”), in ABA without readers acting all offended that they were tricked into reading a “Christian” book.

    (They also get offended when they read CBA books that, apparently, didn’t put “Christian” in big enough letters on the amazon.com description for them.)

    They say things like they do not like being tricked into buying a Christian book with religious themes (but you know, religious themes from other religions besides Christianity would get a pass, of course), and of course they have no problem with characters in books being Christians (and then they attack Christian commenters and say they belong in a mental hospital) … but just don’t push that Christian religion on them.

    Sample comments on goodreads on an author who talked about the power of faith healing people in her novel and who discussed the Almighty and who toned down her sex scenes (she is published in the ABA in the paranormal romance category and had previously been known for more sexual scenes):

    “(I heard the author) just found her faith and being reborn. Good for her, but please don’t make that influence your writing :(”

    “Bought this book based on her older books and I deeply regret it. … Guess she’s recently found Jesus and while I’m happy for her newfound religious beliefs, I don’t care to be hammered over the head with them. The book read more as a YA Christian novel, not what I was expecting to spend my money on. … Her need to preach her personal belief system ruined what could have been a great storyline. In future, (name of author), please ensure your books are put into the YA Christian/Inspirational Genre so that readers will not be mislead in what they are purchasing.”

    “Sorry, but I don’t believe it’s any author’s place to push their personal religious beliefs onto their fanbase.”

    So, you can be a Christian, as long as it doesn’t influence your writing. And you can write Christian novels, but only if God and Jesus and Christian are put in big bold letters (hopefully bright, flashing letters) in as many places as possible so people can’t be “tricked” into reading something Christian by accident.

  • Sharon James August 10, 2013, 1:35 AM

    Thank you, Mike, and everyone who left comments. It took me hours to read them all, but I finally did it. Meanwhile, my family watched “The Empire Strikes Back” then went to bed. I’m happy to say I actually feel encouraged after reading so many different perspectives.

    I am thankful writers have gobs of choices for publication nowadays. If you are a Christian and God has called you to write, then write your heart out. Who cares about the odds of “success”? That’s not why we’re still on this earth! What if God is going to reach one person through your book, and you see her in heaven? What if no one else ever reads you? Did you succeed at your mission? You will rejoice that you reached one person. An eternal soul is worth it. “[My word] will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.” Isaiah 55:11

    I am not ashamed of the gospel. It’s all over my blog. But I have yet to write much fiction that appears “Christian.” Why is that? I’m not sure. Maybe the faith will come out somehow in the stories. Maybe I need to explore some more. Write deeper. But it has to be authentic. Has to tell the truth. (Thanks to the person above who linked to Leif Enger’s “Peace Like a River.” A bestseller in the ABA and amazingly authentic and spiritual. Best book I’ve read in a long time. Thanks also to the agent who recommended it on her blog a few years ago, which is how I found out about it.)

    Writing is play. Thank God! Some servants He has called to the mission field and right now they are putting ointment and bandages on burnt children in Moldova, or building clean water facilities in Sierra Leone. Our babysitter goes to Haiti or China every chance she gets. I sure hope she writes, because I want to find out more about her experiences across the world and with the suffering church. Folks, there is so much more out there.

    I wish everyone would write. If you are reading this, wanting to write, wondering if you have permission to pursue this dream–this God-given dream–then I tell you: Go for it. God will get the story into the hands of readers.

    It is God’s show!

  • Steven Hutson September 8, 2013, 6:25 AM

    I wrote about this very subject in my blog recently: http://steve-soapbox.blogspot.com/2013/06/is-christian-publishing-forgetting.html

  • Cathy Richmond September 8, 2013, 1:01 PM

    Let’s at least give Bethany a gold star for effort.

    We need to get the word out: today’s Christian fiction is not your grandma’s Christian fiction. I wish ACFW would partner with publishers in this direction. Instead publishers are closing down fiction lines and letting good writers go.

  • Don Mulcare October 17, 2013, 10:56 AM

    How different are the demographics for Christian vs. Secular authors and readers? Each group writes for an aging and literate population. The young adult and juvenile market represent the harvest of the future, as well as the present. If “Christian” writing intends to reflect spiritual values, perhaps Christian writers preach to the choir when they address the middle age and older audience. Much of the excellent YA and Juvenile literature as in “summer reading selections” preach values, but they are secular values. Christians who wish to project faith, hope and charity into the next generation might consider retooling their writing skills toward the younger end of the demographic scale.

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